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In the opinion of each of you readers here, what do you suppose it takes to be a professional in order to be accepted in the world of job opportunities and working for the big name companies (in the art department)? It has been a thought that has been recycling over and over in my brain for the past week or two about what it comes to when recruitment comes into play; I have been told and listened in on professors in the field that it is about confidence, other times about hints of pride to hand over to the recruiters, though there is no talk of grades. I suppose that, in the end, grades are letters that signify how good you have been at specific subjects but not at what you plan to achieve in or be given acceptance into.
Neil Gaiman told us that whatever we wanted to do that there was no plan, but to just do it.
Honestly, that is fine. Very well. With hard work, with determination, with opening our minds to new things and learning from those things we can accomplish our greatest ambitions or at least hop on the road to achieving them; most times, there are changes in the road that take us to our true happy place which turns out to be far more different than our goal before. And that is normal, that is fine, and that is marvelous because it's all about finding achievement in ourselves and our work.
But something that always tends to confuse me or get me so anxious is wondering what kind of background are they looking for in terms of your work. Surely they look for confidence in attitude, but you could not be king of the universe. Be humble without putting yourself down. Be someone they trust, yes? But what of all seriousness?
I must admit, I lack maturity. I lack a lot of maturity as in I curse like a sailor, every post before here has been filled with such jelly-filled words of a whimsical nature that I refuse to ever regret yet realize that the world of seriousness could roll their eyes upon seeing a post filled with such Carol-esque quirk. It is good to be lighthearted and humorous, but not in the midst of those who are looking to hire you in the professional field.
I suppose my fear is of my possible lack of responsibility, though that all sounds most normal; but no privileges nor mercy is given to those that have a hard time speaking or looking in the eye.
What does it take to behave or come off as a "professional"?
What are your thoughts about it all?

Andi
  • Listening to: that air conditioner and how it calls to me.
  • Reading: The Compleat Moonshadow
  • Watching: My sick reflection of the screen o' my Mac.
  • Playing: in my tears due to Adventure Time
  • Eating: fingernails
  • Drinking: milk n' ketchup. Go throw up now.
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MajoAnrod Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Hey! :) I'm a new follower from your art and illustrations, which is pretty amazing. I'm also reading Decembersville (which is.... Jqidjfhjsoqjdhdjdiqoqjdhdiaidhqi that cool and awesome). Normally I surf on the journal's of the artist to see and learn from they thoughts experiences.. These one catch my eye.. And I belief that being a professional is more than just being serious.... Or not fooling around, knowing how to make business. I belied that it is more of behavior :). For example, I'm a Somophore at Graphic Design, I'm really stupid but like REAAALLY when I'm with my buddies (which most are girls because in NY university there are Kore girls.. Soo.. They are my "Gals".. What was I?... Oh yeah) also I LOVE with real passion animated movies. *ejem* Disney *ejem* DreamWorks*ejem* universal *ejem* girl I am such a kid on the inside.. I laughed like hell watching Despicable Me 2, I laughed so hard at the Hyenas of the Lion King (which... In Latin Spanish are HILARIOUS...) I also know some of the dialogs from the movies (but that's a different story).. WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY XD.... Being professional.. With a boss, a client, a homework, a project, whatever form the "adult world" (let's put it that way) is being committed to what you are doing..
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MajoAnrod Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
(This thing cuted my inspiration -w-U.) Being responsible, having deadlines, be able to do things before time. It's actually really worth it. By two reasons, 1. You work amazingly fine, and the boss or client or who ever will speak wonders of your job..
2. In university I'm always trying to have everything done before due date.. It's the best feeling I ever had.. No stress literally.
Some people say that if you are immature then you are not professional. And here's where I say.. Depending of how you respond to certain situations is the way of how mature or childish you are going to act. You can be silly or a clown with your co workers but if you are committed to your job and goals... I think you are more than a professional :). I have a job at jewelry. We design them, and it's amazing how deep and neat it is. I always try to work fast and good at least two pieces a day but it's too exhausting for me TwT and sometimes complex. (Depending on the ring, bracelate, or whatever the costumer wants)

If you can be yourself, behaving properly.. I think you are already on the side of professionalism :).


That's what I think :'D
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SunflowerInTheRain Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It's definitely your work they're going to look at, and they will look at you but as long as you get the work done and it's quality, that's what matters. Many a artist have never gotten their "masters" in art and have gone onto a successful art career. If grades make you happy or will open a door for you, say, a scholarship, then go for it!
As for me, it actually was my grades that kept me out of a art high-school. But later on I found out, grades at that school were pure politics. Then I found out a girl from my middle school class got in instead of me because her mom knew someone working in the school, and this girl just happened to take a interest in art maybe five months before we graduated middle school, and her big art project in our art class was a collage. A COLLAGE. She didn't even make the images she used in her project. She got an A for effort sure, but when it comes to someone who's dedicated their entire life to art versus someone who treats art like some kind of cool thing to het into because it'll make them look all "artsy" who just happens to have better grades in core subjects like math?
You're definitely going to want to work with people who value your work like the talent that it is, and respect you for the ability you have. Rather than someone who values face value over anything else.
And the truth is, about that school I didn't get into, I don't regret it. At the high-school I ended up attending, I met my best friend, and people I otherwise would not have met, and found meaning there while avoiding the politics of grades I would have been burdened with at the other school.
I talked with friends who did end up going there, and they.said there was so much emphasis on grades, the work and art wasn't even enjoyable. They were tearing out their hair during already stressful parts of their adolescent lives.
Just remember this, when they were making the Alien movie, they didn't pick Giger for his grades as the Creator of there soon to be iconic monster. They picked him for his work. It was quality, and it was just what they were searching for.
Education is good and vital, but education does not always mean grades, either. And it's about finding your niche as well within the world of art.
You'll do fine, don't worry. :)
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Ayior Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
You don't know me and I haven't known you - But from that sight so far, I see what image you are carrying atm (its a pretty obvious one)
I read this journal because I thought something else but personal content would be in there, but I noticed how intelligent you express yourself here, that's also kinda what I wanted to say. You wrote down what I want to achieve in the English language and don't know how (because its not my first language.)
Wish I could read more of that, do you know any good books at this level?
If you wonder about maturing, when I compare my first impression of you with this journal, I think you could let down your... man you described your usual writing style and I don't know half of the words but it sounds perfect o.o I feel so dumb in English. Don't know enough to express myself. Anyways, let down your usual writing style cover, staying "true" like you seem here and you would seem way more mature, without loosing any of your eccentricity/your self.
I'd say professionality comes with experience, which is not expected from you when you hit the business (I just had a job interview yesterday just being myself and it worked out) If you being "normal" results in such language, I wouldn't doubt you being convincing. Nother experience: Trying to adapt your works to something makes them seem less deep or realistic. You probably/maybe are a realistic person (can't say, you're text on a screen at the moment) so if you make your works completely yourself they'll also be completely realistic.

Okay, random stalking person off.
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KiriHearts Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013
I believe it's a willingness to put professionalism or whatever in front of your personal life, your personality, your opinions, whatever. Don't ever get rid of who you are, but realize that people are kind of not going to be interested. They'll look more at what you do.

I think there's a lot of lying involved too. You may hate every second you spend talking to people, and you may dread every phone call you make (lolhi), and looking someone in the eye for a whole interview may be a huge fracking deal to you, but they don't have to know that.

I'm not really a professional yet, but yeah. :heart: I believe in you!
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CelesOran Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
1)Dress for the job that you want
2)treat others the way that you would want to be treated
3)when it comes to public speaking talk loud enough so that if someone was standing in the back of the room they could hear you (just don't shout or yell) just by having a strong voice you come off as someone who knows what they are talking about even if you don't what you are talking about
4)If you forget what to say, just don't say anything, pause, regain your thought and then continue on talking.... it's sounds a hell of a lot better to the person listening than hearing a bunch of hummmmm and aahhhhhs... or damns
5)go with what you are good at, if color is what you are best at show them that or if it is inking show them that, use your skills to your advantage
6)be yourself.... and remember not everyone is going to like you, that's just the real world. Just forget about that person and move on
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FakeKraid Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I can't speak for the art world in particular, but duplicity is very important. You have to hide your real self away from potential employers and present a false front that is 'normal', and you have to sell them on it. You have to make them think that you have no further ambitions in life than to be useful toward their ends, and when they look online they have to find no evidence to the contrary. Make a secondary deviantART page to put normal professional stuff on. If you're on Facebook, do the same, and hide your main account to non-friends.

I hate to say all of this, but in this job market it simply is not a good time to be a unique, interesting person. To stand a chance you have to not stand out in any way but your credentials. I wish you the best.
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KumoSama Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
From my point of view and what a lot of colleges tell me, grades are just something you need to get past the juridical stuff. Off here in Sweden, what really matters is what you can do and present rather than your grades... However, this is also based on the fact that teachers just tend to throw out as many A's as they can in regards of grades just so they can bring out their reputation without actually earning it.

I think the qualities of a professional is something to be developed over time through experience and knowledge within the line you keep yourself to regarding career- but if one needs some form of instant guide... I suppose that being uptight and serious as an artist of any kind can be seen as a horrible quality if that's all there is to it, I think it's about having but a dash of it along with your own personal charm? This is a really difficult question, Andi, gosh! :XD:
In the end, the most important thing is probably about being adaptable; varying how you act based upon who you are around. And if you don't know what they are okay with, snoop around to find out and adapt a bit more. It's... Jeez, it's tricky! I get why it makes you nervous... You aren't the only one.
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Secretsister16 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Student Artist
It sounds like you figured it out in this journal: Be mature, be open for ideas, and I say be passionate. Show them you really wanna work whereever it is you want to work. So them your talent and your confidence.
You're an extremely talented person Andi Spyral. You'll get there. Just believe.
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frisca-freak Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Student General Artist
I don't really know what it takes to be professional, other than just show you're up for the job... I mean, when volunteered for stuff it was basically "Show a portfolio showing the stuff you can do and different styles".

As far as what people might be looking for, just that you're dependable and you can work with a deadline. You might have to find a way to prove that though, somehow.

Just... learn. You've already taken that step by going to an animation college yes! Learn about what you want to do, different ways to do it and how to do it your own way. I guess the more you do stuff, the more people will want you to do stuff.

But you know, Andi, being a wacky person doesn't make you less 'hirable' or anything like that! On the contrary, especially in an artistic workfield, they look for people who have personality. What kind of an artist would you be if you couldn't think differently, or imagine? What kind of an artist would you be if you were just completly stiff and void of emotion?

I don't see how your whimsy swearing could hurt your chances at all. If anything they made you stand out as an odd but lovable personality, and it somehow also related you to your stories, if that makes sense?

Basically, you don't have to act 'more professional'. You could always better yourself yes, like... if you have procrastination problems, try to overcome them, if you can't work with other people, try to overcome that too. But you don't have to change your personality itself- just as long as you are fair to others and yourself, and just as long as you have something to offer to the world, then you're good.

I know this sounds a bit too optimitic but it does work! I can tell you that in cartooning, illustration and caricaturing, they want someone dependable and determined.

You can trust me on this: you have to learn to deal with rejections because they do happen, and they happen often. But you have to keep trying, and you have to keep working hard.

I can tell you this one bit of advice though- a cartoonist showed me something yes, that a person once while presenting their portfolio went "oh, that's not very good." when someone was leafing through a project he was working on. The person immediately skipped past the project. Never bring yourself down or say that something isn't good enough if you're looking for a job. Because to them, if you think something isn't very good, then it's not worth checking out.

Finally, try to understand WHY you're doing what you want to do. Is it because you just like it? Are you trying to get a message across? For money? to entertain? Or heck, for all of the above? All are okay reasons, but you need a reason. And have a reason as to why it should be YOU.

And... I think that's it.

I hope I didn't ramble too much. Sorry. .u."
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Honey-Bea Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Student General Artist
I don't have the slightest clue on what it takes to be professional nor am I in any place to be giving anyone else an opinion or advice on what it means to be so.
And in all honesty, between you and me, I really wish I myself knew. I'm graduating from high school this year and I want to major in art (I won't say specifically what because I tend to babble when I think about it). So because of that, I've had to make my work look as 'professional as possible' for scholarship interveiws and other things... I've never had to do that before and it was some of the most nerve wracking times of my life thus far.
I had to sit down with my art teacher one day to talk about what I was going to do college wise and she spared no feeling in letting me know I wasn't going to get far with my drawings.
In my portfolios I literally had to remove anything hand made because it wasn't what professionals were 'looking for'.
It broke my heart and I was really down about it for awhile. No, 'down' doesn't even begin to cover how I was... I very nearly gave up on art entirely.
And then it came to me really randomly at some point... I sort of thought one night while drawing 'if this isn't what professionals are looking for from me now, whats going to happen when and if I do get into college?'
Just... My drawings are 'me', my sweat, blood, and tears, and if I have to remove 'me' to be where I want to be, then maybe I don't want to be there.
So I took a chance and put some of what I considered better drawings in a portfolio for an interview.
I was really surprised, but the professors were really interested in them. Like the story and processes behind them, and everything. And I mean, I was reeeally akward. Incrediably nervous, eyes darting all over the place, and I didn't really settle down until I had five minutes left. But they were all over the stuff that for years people had told me would never get me anywhere. And I got the scholarship!

Also when it boils down to maturity and having a 'professional air'... I myself am extremely immature in personality, so again, I'm not reallly in a place to say.
But how I see it, you can be mature and cut the cussing and the 'I'm going to say whatever craziness I want because I'm awesome like that' and be better respected by the more...'professional' type artists and people of the world... But is that something you really want? Like would you be ok with representing yourself like that? ....Is it you?
Cause that's about the same as the question I asked myself.
You could give them what they're apparently looking for from you now, but what happens when you where it is you want to be? You just stuff 'you' in a box somewhere because that's what the world wants? I mean, yes, being more mature to a point would help out with inerviews and the like, but... It's not like you need to remake yourself in that image or anything. I know alot of people who have done that, and they don't enjoy what they do like the used to. I don't ever want to be like that, no one should really.
Maybe I'm just being naive or I've seen waay too many disney movies, but I really do feel like if you just go with your gut, and do what you want here and now while you've got the initiative and the bearings, you'll do well. The fall downs, the let downs, the anxiety and the freak outs are just the prep for something great that'll happen down the road.
... I hope that helped at all, really I do, because while I'm probably not dealing with anything quite on par with you, this is sort of what I've been telling myself all year and I figure if you feel you've given yourself good adivce, spread it. ^^
But again, I really hope that helped.
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MellieBels Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Oh my God this journal is my life.
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Ihavemace Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Being a pro means you can balance your attitudes and self depending on your situation. For example, if you wore your footsie pajamas whilst caramelldansen in your sitting room whilst eating a 500g box of icecream, that doesn't mean you're unprofessional... but if you did it at a job interview, then it would be. It's all in the perspective!
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AntiGravityFox Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Student General Artist
I always believed, that if you showed the right amount of courage, lightheartedness, mildness, and being comfortable in your own mind.
Courage:If they asked you what you felt comfortable doing, and what days, you stand up for what you need and what you're comfortable with, no exceptions. Be brave enough to show what you need, because you deserve the respect, but don't get an attitude about it, that will get you fired.
Lightheartedness: Being able to take jokes, and having an air about you that doesn't make you seem standoffish, because if you are working with a team, there are going to be mistakes, and sometimes, insults. You have to prove to others (and yourself) that you can take it, without breaking down because of their meaningless words.
Mildness: Being able to take some criticism, and blunt instructions, because all those will be shoved on you when you get out in a field like that. Show that you are not too stuck up or too angry at people to take the instructions.
Being comfortable in your own mind: Being able to think about things and innovate they way you seem fit when they need ideas. Knowing what to do, and how to do it. It's a big plus when no one is yelling at you to get things right, and not telling you you are doing a piss poor job because you didn't know what to do with it.


NOTE ANDI: These are NOT things I was pointing out that you didn't have, it was just what I think they look for in jobs like that. Just some observations, and what I think they needed in those fields :la:
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ChibiButterfly Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
employers generally want someone who can be responsible and dedicated, but that should be balanced with actually loving what you do and letting that show. Have some confidence, if you like what you do then have some in what you produce.
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Kazbob Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
well, in my opinion, I think employers generally look for dedication rather than seriousness per say. If you work hard on your work then I don't think most employers mind about your working demenour as long as you show you're serious about what you doing and getting it done and not just wasting their time. If anything, especially in the art world, I've heard employers like you to have a bit of personality- it makes you stand out.
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zepher234 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Quite honestly, professionalism comes with a mix of confidence and humility, while still being able to carry a smile about yourself as a person (even if you don't complete love who you are what you've done).

In getting a job, you always start out professionally.. but nowadays people are more forgiving and lax. You'll be able to have that lack of professionalism (I.E.- laziness/ lack of responsibility). That falls under pacing which comes naturally and it differs from job to job.

TL;DR: Just breathe, you're fine. Your work will speak for you.
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PerplexilyMe Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student General Artist
Heaps of originality (which you have absolutely NO lack of) and confidence. You could be the best artist ever but if you don't have the confidence to sell your own ability, you aren't getting anywhere.
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mexican-jo-cool Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Don't ask me Andi XD i'm just as immature as you are
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sweetsweetsunshines Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you think you could be more mature, then you can always improve yourself.

As for what behavior is "professional" - well, that varies depending on your employer. Everyone and everythin has different standards. (For example, you can get away with a lot more causalness on a blog than a memo and still be "professional")

For me being mature means you can handle whatever's thrown at you without throwing tantrums, you can be tactful and respectful to even people you don't like, and you can take care of others while putting their needs above your own. .
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Krissalina Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student
(My opinion is going to be shaky on the experience front as I am a high schooler who also curses like a sailor oh dear me)

The same scenario has confused me, I must say. From what I've gathered, it mostly depends on your portfolio, and the willingness you have to dive in to whatever they give you. They want an earnest, ambitious worker. Obviously the first way they're going to remember you is your resume and your personality, so it's about being yourself but in a respectful manner while explaining what you can bring to the work environment. As to say, present yourself as the "missing piece" that they need to their corporate machine.

Or at least, that's what I've gathered. That's what I tried to emulate in my volunteer job at the hospital, and the people in the executive office remembered me and seem to want me to return to the job.
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Kyuubi-no-Kyuu Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I...
Honestly have no idea. The other people seem to have come up with some good points, though. Follow their advice, I say.
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slight-obstruction Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think it's one part playing the game and being "mature," and the other part is either knowing what the hell you're doing or having confidence that you can figure out what you're doing as you go. Both of these can be completely faked as long as they are faked well enough to make people believe it.
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varascus1323 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013
Well in my opinion being professional is being yourself, using your skills to the upmost, respecting and generally being polite to your fellow co-workers and your superiors and honestly doing the best you can. It might sound like I have no idea how the world works... but I've worked with bands and I do commissions for people and other odd jobs, I sell myself I'll admit but I also make my words have meaning. e.g. if I say I can get a job done fast, I already know for sure I can do it fast, and I do it fast. Just being true to your word and being honest with yourself will do wonders.
Also I don't recommend swearing a lot in front of your boss or manager or the chatty tattle tale ca(meron)thy in the office, but if it's a part of you don't push it down for the sake of earning money, it's not worth it, trust me on that one.

Um... so in short, don't loose yourself to your job, be yourself, honesty, integrity, and no job is worth breaking the law or changing yourself.

hope that helps
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Emmaethyst Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist
Hmm, I have to say I've wondered a lot about this myself as well. I've concluded it comes down your highest abilities as an artist, like the being the best you possibly can be at your talent. Not everyone is going to like your style of art and want to hire you for something, but if you can get a good number or a couple of influential people to want to pay for your work, you're doing good. It also depends on being able to get things in on deadlines, or not procrastinating, or being able to space your work time out efficiently, etc. etc. Mastering the difficulty of being well rounded, drawing things from your head the way you want too, and being able to do your work in a timely matter. Basically what I said at the beginning, when you're at the best of your capabilities as an artist. :)
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CYBERBUTTERFLY Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013
When your out looking for a job- ESPECIALLY in the art field- the greatest truth you should be aware of is this. You aren't trying to win people on your grades, or your achievements in art... You are selling YOURSELF!... And yes, I'm aware of all the ways that sentence can be taken.

But I'm 30 and have many, MANY job application/interviews under my belt, as well as experience as a vender selling art.

Best thing. BE HONEST. The packaging, the bells and whistles, whether you swear like a trucker or have the mouth of a nun (although, that CAN affect, so I'd advise people to try and clean the language; it will show your intelligence more if nothing else).... None of that means a damn thing if they think your playing the character you think they want you to be rather than just being natural. You are selling YOU- so make sure people know what they are buying.

Okay... Just like if you were selling a car or house- you tend to keep it neat and clean for when people take a look, it's a good idea for interviews. Show up on time and dressed so that you look ready to start the job that instant. (In the case of a lawyer, a suit. For an artist, fashionable- but something that you can roll up the sleeves. For a trade worker, sturdy jeans and steel toed boots, etc.)

Cases in point... My very first job. It was for a plant nursery attached to a shopping chain. I dressed in jeans, comfortable runners, and a nice top. My boss looked at my resume for 2 minutes, talked to me about the job and my experience in the field (for which I had ZERO experience- I told her as much) and then talked to me about ME; my plans/goals and what I could bring to the job (It involved working with a cashiers till- so I recited her the numbers off the bar codes of 2 items I saw go through the till a LOT while I waited.) . I tried my best to be well spoken (hey- it DOESN'T hurt to show off intellect), open, friendly, and (here it comes) honest.

I was hired. I found out a week later it was because of my relaxed personality, ability to remember numbers, and smile (which she listed as the main reason). She couldn't remember anything about my resume.

Second thing... And this is the 'art field job interview' perspective.... Because everyone has a different art preference and not everyone is going to be drawn to your work (Some people will immediately be drawn to a style, some just will have no interest whatsoever), make sure you have a well stocked, diverse portfolio! Showing that you aren't a 'one style' type artist lets an interviewer (who may not be immediately drawn to your stuff) know that you can adjust styles accordingly.

Also, know the job you are being hired for! If you are getting an interview from a place that deals mostly with creating advertising posters and logos- then make sure your presentation of artwork is centered around pieces that could serve in that context... Sure- show off those pieces your really proud of- but show them you understand what you will spend most of your time doing.

Third... Be aware of the person you are talking to. Some people are very talkative, some are more reflective. (whether selling in a booth, or in a job interview) While I highly encourage people to be willing to talk about their art and the process behind creating it; let the person viewing the art decide the natural flow of the conversation. (ESPECIALLY when in an interview)

Lastly... Have a reason/explanation/story for EVERY piece of art you show! S-O many times I've been asked about my work- and many, MANY sales only come once the person has learned the story behind it. Only THREE TIMES in five years have I had people purchase a painting without me having to work at the sale (this is what I mean about 'selling yourself').

So yeah.... I hope this helps Count... Honestly, it really doesn't come down to a special formula that's going to work every time... I've had many good interviews and not gotten the job. I've had many interviews where I know I'm not hitting it off with the person and won't get the job... I've had a couple where I know I got the job because I worked DAMN hard to sell my best features during the interview... And I've gotten a couple simply because of something I wasn't even considering during the meeting. (been hired because of my smile... I once got hired because what I fell short on in qualifications I made up for in being a fellow AC/DC fan... You NEVER know)

I will say this... Art is a HARD job to get into; lots more people trying to get in than there are jobs to cover... So just don't get discouraged if it takes awhile and you get more 'thanks, but no thanks' than 'your just what we needed' responses. Even just getting out and showing people your stuff is creating a name for you. Someone might know a friend, who has a friend, who....

You've got the talent... We can all SEE the talent.... So, yeah... Your one teacher is right... Just get out there and do it! You might have more 'failures' (I prefer 'learning experiences') than successes at the beginning (lord knows I did) but you do pick up a few tricks, and eventually things will just click into place.
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MacabreFawn Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student General Artist
I've always been told that a few years experience plus classes in the particular subject at a good college can get do nothing but help you. If you're going to an interview or something, try practicing in a mirror first. sorry that's all I really know :)
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Gennabeec Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student General Artist
I'm not sure. "Professional" is relative. I should think how you act doesn't DIRECTLY apply to what you do, unless you're a car salesman or something. Or any type of businessperson... I'm getting ahead of myself. I don't know what big-name art people are looking for. I should think it would come down to what you can do, but I may be dead wrong. My advice (though not entirely the best, granted, given it's coming from a 14 year old) is to be yourself and see how it goes. God, I'm not helping, am I? Good luck, Andi.
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ahtnamaseed Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student Filmographer
Oh and I'm pretty sure no one wants to work with an asshole :I
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ahtnamaseed Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student Filmographer
I'm just as unsure as you are about this topic. I try not to think about it - which is probably a bad thing. I'm positive that grades have nothing to do with it though. As long as you have the talent I don't think they care at all about a stupid letter. Though maybe whatever school you went to could make you stand out a bit from others, but I don't think there's much in that either... I kinda feel like it should be more about what you personally took from whatever school/situation/whatever you went to and not the place itself. But that doesn't mean it IS that way. It's also kinda tricky thinking about what 'professional' means in an art setting. We all know us artists are a little crazy and not necessarily as 'serious' as other business settings. It's even weird thinking about art as a business. So maybe there's some middle ground? Or just knowing when to act mature? I kinda think that's what maturity really is anyway. Not being all serious and grown up all the time, but being able to act 'immaturely', and being aware that you're doing it and knowing when it's okay? I don't think I'm explaining this right; I'm no good at words. I'm also pretty sure I'm getting off topic. (but seriously I remember seeing a documentary on pixar that showed them in their original location riding bikes down the hallways and throwing things at each other, so I dunno man.)
Anyways.
I feel like anyone you ask in the professional field is going to give you a different answer because everyone has a different idea of what qualities a person in the field should have. So maybe the best thing to do is figure out what the person you want to hire you specifically wants? I'm not sure. Sorry if I'm just being confusing and making no sense :I
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DreamTheBunny Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think you just have to keep your head held high, back straight, and a expression on you're face that says "Flip this, I'm so professional." And try to keep cool, talk nicely about normal things and make everything you do seem as easy as anything. I think if you act relaxed and calm they will see you as mature and smart, at least that is what i would think. I would also tried to be prepared for things they might ask, cause you never know o.o And being polite is a must XD


.............and that's really all i can say about this subject <XD
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Niobesnuppa Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013
I'm not entirely sure what you want to work as, but if you want to work as an artist or an animator I would think skill and experience comes before attitude and confidence.
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VampireLover911 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Hmmm this is a hard topic to crack upon. But I guess other than the previous mentioned qualities you show to the people who want to possibly hire you it to show you are Serious about your work and that you have passion. And that you can fill out certain deadlines with credible time and effort in your works! Also maybe a helpful tip is to show you are socially kind or your attitude towards others is good! They'll check your internet websites to see how you act generally towards others! Because they want to make sure you as a person adds a positive attitude to the work place (or company).

I'm sorry if this is just words you've heard before but I hope this helps! And good luck! I know you can do it! You changed my imagination through your works and stories and I'm grateful to you! Good luck! You can do it! :)
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Ghostgirl-Shanika Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe that one of the key components to behave/come off as 'professional' is to have an air of flexibility about you. No employer is the same, though an air of formality is always a good place to start in any situation.

I believe that if you are open in situations such as interviews and whatnot. Also showing that you have a good sense of humour is always bonus points, I believe. Just don't start cracking the jokes until you get a feel that the person interviewing you will like it, or even wait to see if they are lighthearted themselves. In the creative/entertainment sphere, I can imagine employers looking for someone who is obviously creative and enthusiastic about their work, but also is reliable and will sit down and get things done when the time comes.

I am not sure if any of this makes sense, since I'm not exactly going into the Entertainment business. But I still think that openness, flexibility and patience are your friends in more 'formal' and 'professional' situations.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense Andi! But I think you have brought up a very good point in asking this question, it's something that I am sure many others should think about too. I hope that others will give you far better advice than I just did. :)
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noeldragon Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well in all reality it tends to fall down to your talent- or at least that is how it should be. Showing them your portfolio and if they like and or not and if you can do what they want or not. Of course you have to be respectful- and confident of your art or else it puts them into uncomfortable, but over all being 'yourself' except in a more respectable manner... I suppose?
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